Bags!
"I can't carry more stuff!" It's a common problem, especially with players that haven't earned enough experience points to max out their strength yet. Here's a list of where you can find a bag (this will include guild bags too, if ** is listed in the item name, it cannot be given to another player). Our standard unit of measurement is the dagger that can be purchased at the Pinnacle Smithy.
We know there's a lot more to be found on the mud than what is listed here at the moment; if you know of one that's not listed and would like to share, please let us know the directions to find it.
So what do bags bring to the table?
For one, they can make it easier to organize a busy inventory. At shops for example you can 'sell all from bag 1'. Primarily though, they enable you to carry more than you might be limited to by your encumbrance level. As a quick example of this, a fully expanded Bag of Stretching can hold 6 times more than the weight of the bag itself. But how much does the bag actually weigh? How much can you carry? Here is a quick guide to encumbrance and the weight of things.
Using numbers available from some specific guild encumbrance measurements we can get a very straightforward view on both item weight and encumbrance. At its foundation, encumbrance and weight use a system of measurement similar to ounces and pounds. With 1 pound being equal to 16 ounces. Terminology on 3K for this has no standard, so just be aware that 1 encumbrance = 16 "units" which some guilds use to represent their current and max inventory capacity. In nearly all cases, most items skills and stats rely on a number that is divisible by 16. Because of this you will likely never encounter a sword that uses 1.5 encumbrance. It will either be 1 or 2 (or more) but never something in-between. In the case of bags, we used smithy daggers to measure their capacity. Each dagger weighs in at exactly 1 encumbrance. They are cheap and in unlimited supply, and therefore an easy item to use for testing. You can partially determine this by looking at the dagger. In its description you will see 'It looks light.'. This message indicates the item weighs between 16 and 32 "units", or more specifically, 1-2 encumbrance.
How can you calculate encumbrance?
At 0 strength, you have a base encumbrance of 10. Each point of strength you increase raises your capacity by 1. This is a very straightforward method for calculating your encumbrance level. If you raise the adventuring.packing.carrying skill, each point of training will increase your encumbrance by 3.
How much do things weigh?
Most items have a weight description when you look at them. Items will nearly always weigh whole encumbrance numbers. The only exception to this is items that are 'very light' will come in under 1 full encumbrance, being 2 or 4 etc, but less than 16. Sometimes items that would seem identical can fluctuate within this identifier. Preserved corpses for example can sometimes weigh either 3 or 4 encumbrance, though their appearance would otherwise seem the same. Similarly the Aurothon Shield can be either 16 or 17 encumbrance.
What about coins?
Coin weight has a slight fluctuation that seems to be tied to total quest points, and perhaps the rank of high mortal. The highest tolerance for coins seen so far is 1 encumbrace per 9900 coins. Other testing has been seen as low as 7400 for a non high mortal. Coin weight, similar to gear, jumps in whole intervals of 1 full encumberance at each mark. So if 9900 is your limit, picking up 9899 more will not add to your encumbrance, but the final coin will add the next full encumbrance point. There is no incremental increase. The only caveat to this formula is moving from 0 coins to the first encumbrance. Again using 9900 as an example, moving from 0 to 9899 or anywhere in between will add 1/16 encumbrance, and the final 15/16 will be applied once you hit 9900. Beyond this, every increment of 9900 will add exactly 1 encumbrance. As of writing this, each high mortal tested regardless of rank had a 9900 tolerance.
Description: | Weight: |
---|---|
It looks very light. | = Less than 1 (1/8, 1/4 etc) |
It looks light. | = 1 - 2 encumbrance |
It doesn't look too heavy. | = 2 - 4 encumbrance |
It looks heavy. | = 5 - 6 encumbrance |
It would take considerable effort to lift this. | = 16 / 17 encumbrance |
You'll most likely herniate a disc lifting this. | = 24 encumbrance |
Description: | % |
---|---|
You are lightly burdened. | 15% |
You are burdened. | 30% |
You are encumbered. | 45% |
You are heavily loaded. | 60% |
You are over taxed. | 75% |
You are collapsing under your load. | 100% |
Where are the bags?
Click on header to sort bags by column... Click on row to expand for more information.
Name | Area | Cost | # |
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Bag
From Fantasy: Bag - |
Fantasy, Katin |
1.0000000036 36 coins |
1.0000000006 6 daggers |
Bag of Holding
From Chaos: The bags seem to have some variation in capacity and have been seen to either hold 20 or 30 daggers. Kill the merchants to obtain the bag. Whether you have it identified or not, the bag will hold the same regardless. Bag of Holding - (identified) |
Chaos, Crydee |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000030 20 - 30 daggers |
Bag of Stretching** random drop item From Fantasy:
Bag of Stretching -
|
Fantasy, Dragon Isle |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000090 90 daggers |
Bards: floating disc |
Guild |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000047 47 daggers |
Bards: music box |
Guild |
1.0000001600 1600 coins |
1.0000000016 16 daggers |
Blade
|
Guild |
1.0000000000 - |
1.0000000024 24 daggers |
A brown sack
|
Newbieland, Peasant Farm |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000017 17 daggers |
World Drop |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000100 100 daggers |
|
Changeling: clone |
Guild |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000065 65 daggers |
Changeling: fraal |
Guild |
1.0000010000 10k coins |
1.0000000024 24 daggers |
Cloud
From Chaos: The cloud must be linked to you to be used, and once linked can not be used by another. The command is <claim cloud>
Cloud - |
Chaos, Sweetboots' House |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000024 24 daggers |
A Crimson Bag
From Chaos: All items in this area are random drops. There are 3 sets of enemies that can spawn (ghosts-50k, gods-150k, massive deity-20m). The player that obtained this bag killed roughly 6 ghosts and a god before the bag dropped. A Crimson bag (0% full) - |
Fantasy, Great Well of Crenda |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000024 24 daggers |
Elemental: bag |
Guild |
1.0000000036 36 coins |
1.0000000006 6 daggers |
Elemental: temporal vortex |
Guild |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000087 35 - 87+ items |
An elvish bag
From Chaos: An elvish bag - |
Chaos, 3Kraft |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000010 10 daggers |
Gentech: An all-weather backpack |
Guild |
1.0000001600 1600 coins |
1.0000000016 16 daggers |
Gentech: An auto
|
Guild |
1.0000003600 3600 coins |
1.0000000024 24 daggers |
Gentech: clone |
Guild |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000022 22 daggers |
Jedi: A Jedi Backpack |
Guild |
1.0000001500 1500 coins |
1.0000000016 16 daggers |
Juggernaut: tank |
Guild |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000130 50 - 130 daggers |
Kanga's Pouch
From Chaos: Kanga's pouch - |
Chaos, Winnie the Pooh |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000015 15 daggers |
Knights: A large sack |
Guild |
1.0000001600 1600 coins |
1.0000000018 18 daggers |
Knights: Esquire |
Guild |
1.0000000005 Glvl 5 |
1.0000000070 70 daggers |
A Lady's Pocketbook
From Center of Chaos: A Lady's Pocketbook - |
Chaos, McDonald's |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000015 15 daggers |
A large sack (0% full)
From Chaos:
A Large sack (0% full) - |
Chaos, The Dragonbone Chair |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000025 25 daggers |
A large wicker basket
From Center of Chaos: a large wicker basket - |
Fantasy, Xaxis |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000018 18 daggers |
A lunch box
|
Science, Abandoned Building |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000006 6 daggers |
Mages: deep pocket |
Guild |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000045 45 items |
A Magical Bag
From Center of Chaos: A magical bag - |
Chaos, Toy Factory |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000024 24 daggers |
A Mechanic's Toolbox
From Science: A mechanic's toolbox (closed) |
Science, Gas Station |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000020 20 daggers |
Necromancers: velvet bag |
Guild |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000024 24 daggers |
Necromancers: secret chest |
Guild |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000078 45 - 78 daggers |
A pail
From Fantasy: A pail - |
Fantasy, Cottage |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000025 25 daggers |
Priests: a large sack (0% full) |
Guild |
1.0000002500 2500 coins |
1.0000000025 25 daggers |
Psicorps: Astral Steed |
Guild |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000100 100+ daggers |
Psicorps: A Psicorps Assault Backpack |
Guild |
1.0000001250 1250 coins |
1.0000000024 24 daggers |
Satchel of Holding
From Center of Chaos:
Return to Center of Chaos: <e, 3n, out, 2s, 2w, 2n, 3w, vortex>
Satchel of Holding - |
Chaos, Teenage Mutant Turtles |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000040 40 daggers |
Sii: A large rucksack |
Guild |
1.0000002000 2000 coins |
1.0000000024 24 daggers |
Silk woven bag
Further directions, to the bag, are not given (this will only get you to the area). The bag itself is made in a finely woven silk. You have never see any silk of such high quality as this. You think you might tear through the bottom if you placed one too many items within, suprisingly enough the fabric is quite tough. You can put things in it. |
Chaos, Vidaria |
1.0000000000 N/A |
1.0000000008 8 daggers |
small pouch, A
From Fantasy: Purchased at the Grand Hall of Rohm Giddor. A small pouch - |
Fantasy, Grand Hall of Rohm Giddor |
1.0000000250 250 coins |
1.0000000015 15 daggers |